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    Default How the Sausage is made - Part of a Series

    I have people ask me all the time about shooting underwater, and all of the stuff that's involved.

    Most of the questions are about gear and post-processing. To me that's sad, as I believe the most important stuff that goes into making a good shot has very little to do with gear and post processing.

    A good shot has first to do with bringing your camera on the dive. If you don't take your rig with you, you'll never get the shot. The number of times I hear surprise from divers that I took my cam over the rocks or through the surf, or took out the scooter and the camera - its always surprises me.

    If you leave your rig at home, you'll miss capturing the moments of the dive.

    One of the other important elements of shooting that has nothing to do with gear or post is getting to know your subjects. Bob gets great Lumpsucker shots because he has taken the time to know where these guys live, what the eat, where they hang out and how they behave.

    Nudi's - while just bags of pus and slime, have very replicable and very predictable behavior patterns. Its easy to spot them when you know what to look for (and you're not always looking for the Nudi, but looking for the things the Nudi's eat, the places they live, the environment they prefer - still water, sand, moving water, etc.)

    In this series I'll be covering a lot of the things I do to get the shots - from spotting, to composition, to gear to post, etc.

    In this first one, I want to show you a before and after Macro.



    SET UP
    We came up on this Tri Linny. He was in a good spot - out on the end of a kelp leaf, by himself. If I got low enough with my belly on the sand, I'd be able to shoot up a bit and not have too much behind him. It could be a good shot.

    The down side is he was very exposed to the surge. I was getting pounded and he was flapping back and forth.



    There was a lot of shmootz in the water and I was shooting with only one strobe (the other was intermittent so I turned it off.) So the lighting isn't the best, but with a nudi this small, out in the open - one strobe is fine.



    I set up, braced and was firing off shots - I finally captured the Nudi in-between surge thrusts - but I didn't like what I was getting behind and around the guy with my normal f18 (pretty deep DOF).



    I moved to an f7.1 Ap - this is a much tighter Depth of Field. The result is it softened everything up and I was much more pleased with the shot. The down side is you have no margin for error, as if you breathe or move your rig even an eight-of-an-inch you're going to miss your focus spot (for me, its always the Nudi's head.)



    You can see in the shot above how much the softened background accentuates the subject. I like this shot a lot better. Of course it took about 4 or 5 shots to get him standing upright in all the surge.



    Below is the final image once I got done processing it. Here's what I did:

    • Crop - I crop everything to a 6 X 4 aspect. It makes all my shots look uniform when I line them up. On very rare occasions I'll use a custom crop - but 99.99999% of my stuff is cut to 6 X 4. Although I try most of the time to fill the frame and not crop at all, these shots are center shots, as I was pretty far from this little guy.


    • Color Correction - Ikelite Strobes are very, very warm. Most of the SoCal landscape (especially at ML) is orange and brown. Without some color correction everything will look like a warm orange mess.


    • De-Speckle - I was shooting in really, really dark water. I was pretty far away as there was nowhere to brace that brought me close enough - so there is a lot of stuff between me and the guy. De-Speckle is a noise reduction that takes out some of the small black dots that invade low light, long distance shots.


    • Noise-Reduction - I ran this shot through Neat Image. That takes out all that little rainbow fleck noise from a low light, long distance shot like this. It also gives the Nudi's skin a smooth sheen - so I use the edit slider and I fade the result so the skin looks more realistic and not all Nicole Kidman / Madams Tussaund's


    • Shadow / Highlight - my fav tool for Nudis. The impact on a TriLinny is minimal, as their skin isn't too reflective. But on a McFarlands, or on any of the white Nudi's (Sandy, Yellow Lined, Limbaughs, Flavah, etc.) it changes eveything. It controls the reflections, brings out the bumps on their skin and the wrinkles and just makes them easier to look at.


    • Pick out the yuck - this is the most time consuming process. I go in and pick out all of the floating yuck. I view the image at 200%, then go in and use the "Spot Healing" tool for the first pass. For stuff that is too tight to the subject I'll use a "Clone" tool as its more selective and I can set the hardness (the edge) to leave the surrounding stuff alone.


    • Sharpen - I don't use the "Sharpen tool" - I use "unsharp mask" set at maximum (500%) and then go to edit and fade the unsharp mask. It gives me much more control over the finished result and allows me a much wider control parameter.


    • Re-size - I resiize it to 1200 pixels wide.


    • I will usually run the 1200 image through a very subtle "smart sharpen" just to give it a little pop without making it too crispy. When I "save for the web" its making the image only 72 DPI - so the Smart Sharpen really helps my stuff sparkle at these very low DPI's. I start at 40% and fade to taste



    And that's it.

    No wacky photoshop voodoo, nothing introduced into the image that wasn't there, nothing extraordinary to materially change the subject - just some clean up and some color correction.

    Of course, then I then post the shots to Dive Matrix.




    Wide Angle shots take a bit more work - I'll post a walk through of some WA shots soon.




    KEEPER SHOT BEFORE





    KEEPER SHOT AFTER


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    Nice work Ken.

    A passion for passing on knowledge is one of the best qualities IMO

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    That's awesome Ken!

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    Thanks for this, Ken. I've actually wanted to see something like this for awhile but didn't want to ask...

    Very informative, and it really shows you that yes, people can take amazing photographs without much (or any) work in Photoshop.

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    Thank you for taking the time to write these things down and post them. The photography is beautiful and the knowledge is priceless. An inspiration to all of us who lug a camera along on the dive.

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    Cool post Motivation. The post processing stuff is very helpful to me as I think a lot of my shots could be improved from a bit of that. But so far I am limited to cropping and occasionally, Picasa's "I'm feeling lucky" button as I was not sure what kinds of things are useful.

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    Thanks!! I've wanted to see something like this for a while. It very imformative.

    Can you give an idea of how much time you spent for the post-processing?
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    Love it Ken. Good stuff.

    When you get serious about photography, you'll find that perfect workflow that just suits you. Mine is slightly different than Ken's, but in essence it accomplishes the same thing. If Ken (or anyone) wants a second example of how it can be done, let me know and I'd be glad to post my workflow in this thread as well

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    ^ Sure, post it up here.

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    Great post Ken! That secret sauce is pretty potent stuff!

    Quick question: are there any standards of acceptable post-processing typically agreed to by UW photographers? I'm sure that noise reduction, punching up the colors and removal of distracting backscatter particles are well-accepted clean-up, but I can easily imagine a gray area that may stray too far from the original shot, like removing bubbles, editing out larger debris in macros, kelp strands or entire divers in WA, etc. Or is it anything goes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gombessa View Post
    Great post Ken! That secret sauce is pretty potent stuff!

    Quick question: are there any standards of acceptable post-processing typically agreed to by UW photographers? I'm sure that noise reduction, punching up the colors and removal of distracting backscatter particles are well-accepted clean-up, but I can easily imagine a gray area that may stray too far from the original shot, like removing bubbles, editing out larger debris in macros, kelp strands or entire divers in WA, etc. Or is it anything goes?
    Its all about the shot.

    There are photographers I know who literally do nothing - they proudly post flat, dull, snow filled shots in the name of "I do nothing..."

    Whatever.

    This is art. This isn't the news, and I'm not a photo journalist in some war torn country.

    I'll do whatever suits the shot best.

    That said, I'm not good at Photoshop and I do all of my processing in a single layer. I don't bring in Sunbursts (you'd be surprised at how many do), I don't do water color fades and all that. I get 95% of what I need from the camera, and I use PS to punch things up and remove things that were unavoidable.

    Claudette and I are so tight that there are no bubbles in our WA shots - I have a series of signals and count-downs I use for her, and she responds.

    I have no problems taking bubbles out of WA shots of other divers, or taking whole divers out of the back ground if we're in super-clear water and they're invading my subject. Its rare when I need to remove large objects - I usually have better composition than that.

    All of this is to reinforce my position that this is art and not journalism. Do what you need to do to make the shot you took look its best.

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    Ken,

    How do you crop 6x4 aspect? I've frequently found myself wanting to crop something so that it would have some exact aspect ratio and I've never figured it out.

    Thanks,
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    Hi

    I love your shots and i aspire to get to the point you are at with my photography. I have a question though- how do you reconcile the fact that you quite often 'get into the mud' and set-up shots by laying on the bottom etc with the philosophy of 'never touch the reef'? Coming from a Monterey perspective, i know that the bottom of our diving environments arent exactly cozumel reef but ive been struggling with the concept of getting dirty to get these great shots. I dont mean it as a criticism, just as a question ive been struggling to answer for myself for a while

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    Default Hi buddy - Short answer, I cheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ross-O View Post
    Ken,

    How do you crop 6x4 aspect? I've frequently found myself wanting to crop something so that it would have some exact aspect ratio and I've never figured it out.

    Thanks,
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    I shoot exclusively in RAW these days. Although I'm seriously considering going back to High-rez JPG for Macros, as much of the benefits of RAW (namely, white balance) is lost on Macro as I bring my own light.

    There is a crop tool in the PS RAW viewer that has several default settings. I've selected "2 to 3."

    As to the 4 X 6 question - its pretty easy for me. The native aspect ratio of the sensor in the Nikon D200 is 3:2 - which conveniently is 4 X 6.

    Honestly, I never really leave 4 X 6. It comes out of the camera that way, and for 90% of my shots I use the full frame. When I don't, I crop to 2 to 3 (4 X 6).


    Its a rare day when I crop to something else, but it happens.


    THIS IS 4 X 6



    These are NOT 4 X 6












    I know since the Ansel Adams days people have been cropping shots in all kinds of wacky ways. But for me, there is nothing more distracting than going to a post, or to someone's site and seeing shots presented in immediate proximity that are all different sizes and shapes. It just makes me believe the artist couldn't fill the frame. I know that's often not true - but it just looks bad to me.

    I work very hard to compose so I fill the frame - and for me, that's 4 X 6.


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    Default Hiya - My short answer is the shot is everything

    Quote Originally Posted by np251 View Post
    Hi

    I love your shots and i aspire to get to the point you are at with my photography. I have a question though- how do you reconcile the fact that you quite often 'get into the mud' and set-up shots by laying on the bottom etc with the philosophy of 'never touch the reef'? Coming from a Monterey perspective, i know that the bottom of our diving environments arent exactly cozumel reef but ive been struggling with the concept of getting dirty to get these great shots. I dont mean it as a criticism, just as a question ive been struggling to answer for myself for a while

    Thanks
    I dive a site locally called MarineLand (some call it "Old MarineLand.)

    This site is the best shore dive in SoCal - its a precipitously exposed peninsula, gets pounded from all sides in bad weather, gets bathed with cool water from a deep canyon not far off and is home to pinnacles, deep fissures and more varieties of Nudibrach than anywhere else north of San Diego.

    Most of its rocks are covered with this crusty growth. You put a finger down and it crubles and falls off.

    Nearly everytime I dive there, I watch the large Barred Sand Bass run off as I scooter by, and again and again I see their wake breaking off this crusty stuff as they zoom off.

    I believe as divers we are to be stewards of the environment we dive in, but I'm not going to be subject to it in a way that the residents aren't.

    I go to great efforts not to trash my dive site, but if I'm going in for a shot, and to get the shot I want it means I'm going to snap off a corner of this crusty stuff, I will try to avoid that. But if the surge pushes me into it while I'm squatting on the sand, I'll sleep fine.

    When I was in Bonaire, I took hundreds of Macro shots. In nearly all of them, I was "touching" something. A fin tip on a rock, my elbows in the sand, my bare fingertip on some coral.

    I came back with hamburger hands. But I did my best not to break anything. I'm confident I didn't kill any critters and although I'm sure I broke several local ordinances because in nearly every shot I "touched something."

    I sleep fine.

    I dive heavy specifically so I can drop fast, shoot fast and move on. If you'd see me work, you'd appreciate how many shots I get off in the moments I touch anything.

    Its all about the shot for me. I won't push divers out of the way to get the shot, I won't break stuff off to get a shot, but I will often pull small fuzz out of the way, I will often NERP (Nudibranch Emergency Relocation Program) a Nudi to get the shot, I will often waft sand and loose schmootz off of a subject to get the shot.


    Completely prone over a rocky reef for this one, as he was about 1 or 2" above the ground, at the bottom of the Gorg





    Knees on the sand for this one, elbows on a dryer-sized rock, shooting up into the night





    Me in a depression in a rock, on my side, body essentially in fetal position, gripping a rock or a piece of something with my ankles in 8 feet of water, trying to be still in the surge






    Legs wrapped around the wreck for this one




    Claudette belly on a rock, elbows on that same rock, holding a kelp leaf with one hand, her can light with the other to light the kelp from behind, me with belly on rock, elbows on kelp hold-fast, getting the shot






    Me, belly on the sand, back arched, looking up slightly




    Me in about 12 or 14 feet of water, on my belly, back arched, neck craned, legs wrapped around some kelp behind me, shooting up into the sunlight.




    Right knee on the deck at the bow of this wreck, left leg over the side (gripping the thing with my crotch, essentially). Not much to hold on to, so I just got very negative, presented a small silhouette to the current and we were working very, very fast at 90 feet.



    Most of my subjects are in the surge zone. To get the shots I want, I need to get close, I need to hold the Deathstar still and I need to stop breathing and gently squeeze the shutter. This means I'm often covered with yuck after a day of shooting - both Macro and Wide Angle. I nearly always dive with my scooter, so I have that clipped off - making my profile huge. I'm essentially a sail in the surge. Yet, despite all of my physical interaction with the sea, the ocean is still there. Photographers touch things all the time to get their shots. I'm just not going to get all self-righteous about it or lie about it. I will do what I need to do to get the shot I want, and I'll do my best not to break or kill stuff. These two actions are not mutually exclusive to the experienced photographer.

    I'm not careless.

    I'm not an eco-terrorist.

    I have excellent buoyancy and I'm not a bouncing Betty or some roto-tilling clown. I'm not leaving a swath of destruction in my wake (unlike a careless private boater or professional Lobster fisherman who carelessly drop heavy steel onto my dive sites throughout the year.)

    I touch stuff all the time.

    The brace improves my shots.

    And I sleep fine.



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