Neoprene neck seals

[ligersandtions]

Will the thinner wrist seals be okay if/when (more likely when...) I go to dry gloves??

[HBDiveGirl]

Will the thinner wrist seals be okay if/when (more likely when...) I go to dry gloves??

I used the regular weight latex wrist seals for my first year of dry glove diving, and it was fine.

They are a little more likely to get damaged if the suit side ring bangs against something hard. I had two burst punctures over 18 months.

Now I have heavy duty latex wrist seals, and I'm more careful, and I use the Diving Concepts neoprene ring gaiters for more protection. Ken turned me onto them and I highly recommend the gaiters!

No more ring adjacent punctures.

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Claudette

[Codyjp]

On its best day, a DS will keep you mostly dry...
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Ken

YOU DREAM KILLER!!!!!

Be aware that heavy-duty wrist seals, although ideal for supporting seal-based dry glove systems like the Vikings, will tend to seep more, as they don't conform to wrist tendons as well as the thinner ones.

I didn't have any luck with the HD rings stretching over my fat hands and still being able to seal on my wrists.

[Stryker1775]

Completely off track...but the Bioseal will work fine with a latex neck right?

[Divin'Hoosier]

Completely of track...but the Bioseal will work fine with a latex neck right?

This is directly off of the Apollo Sports USA website:

While the Bio-Seal was originally designed for use for neoprene seals, it will also make a latex type seal more comfortable and less restrictive. This product does contain oils which can cause early wear in latex type seals. Cleaning the neck seal of your suit thoroughly after each use can help delay this effect. Each seal includes a dry storage container.

[LCF]

You can use the Bioseal with a latex seal, although it will cause the latex to deteriorate faster than normal. (This is something Apollo writes in their materials on the BioSeal.) It will NOT cause a flabby, leaking latex neck seal not to leak. I've tried that But it stops seal hickeys.

[Codyjp]

OK, so I donned the wustoff scissors and went to town. I am about 1/2" shorter now. I am not any braver than that. Now, when I put my hood on it sticks to the neoprene and locks my head down. It is a 'drysuit' hood.

Now, this particular hood has a limited number of days as long as I get really lucky and score a new Otter Bay, so with the OB solve this issue?

NOW we are officially off topic.

[DiscoveryDiver]

YOU DREAM KILLER!!!!!

Yeah, the word "drysuit" is more of a concept than a reality....

[limeyx]

Yeah, the word "drysuit" is more of a concept than a reality....

Well, my worst day in a drysuit is better than my best in a wetsuit (even in 83F water)

[DiscoveryDiver]

Well, my worst day in a drysuit is better than my best in a wetsuit (even in 83F water)

Really...that's lucky....I just hate leaks...my usual pattern is a few outings of bliss at the beginning of a season (with a fresh or new suit), then a slow degradation of integrity as leaks happen here and there.

I hate the feeling of a leak mid dive and the sensation of that cold water working it's way down to the lowest point.

At the end of the season, I'm usually just chomping for the air/water temps to be warm enough to dump the dry and have it plugged and pressure checked at factory.

I'm downright retarded when it comes to finding leaks...

Let's see how things are this year with the fusion

[ligersandtions]

Okay, I talked with Mark and he suggested that I go with the regular wrist seals as well, so that's the direction I'm going in.

As for the drysuit not keeping you completely dry, how not dry are we talking? I noticed a week after my previous dive that the inside of my suit was still damp, which means it must have been fairly wet on the day of the dive (and also means that laying it flat is not the best way to get the inside dry).

[Divin'Hoosier]

Okay, I talked with Mark and he suggested that I go with the regular wrist seals as well, so that's the direction I'm going in.

As for the drysuit not keeping you completely dry, how not dry are we talking? I noticed a week after my previous dive that the inside of my suit was still damp, which means it must have been fairly wet on the day of the dive (and also means that laying it flat is not the best way to get the inside dry).

The inside of the suit is always a bit damp. Not necessarily from a leak but from condensation. The water's cold and your body is warm. Condensation forms on the inside of the suit. The undergarment should keep the condensation away from your skin. If you have a leak than you'll notice a localized pattern to the moisture. Also, if you dive in salt water the moisture will taste salty if you have a leak. If it's not salty, it's condensation.

[Codyjp]

I built a nice dryer for my suit. I plan on posting pictures up of it this weekend. It was easy to make and should dry my suit in an hour or so.

[limeyx]

Okay, I talked with Mark and he suggested that I go with the regular wrist seals as well, so that's the direction I'm going in.

As for the drysuit not keeping you completely dry, how not dry are we talking? I noticed a week after my previous dive that the inside of my suit was still damp, which means it must have been fairly wet on the day of the dive (and also means that laying it flat is not the best way to get the inside dry).

Just turn inside out to make sure it dries inside.

[pengwe]

You can use the Bioseal with a latex seal, although it will cause the latex to deteriorate faster than normal. (This is something Apollo writes in their materials on the BioSeal.) It will NOT cause a flabby, leaking latex neck seal not to leak. I've tried that But it stops seal hickeys.

Is that the name for the red mark the seal leaves on your neck, like someone tried to slash your throat? I would love to get rid of that!