How do you setup your weights when you dive dry?
Example:
Whites Fusion
Arctic Undergarments
xlbs in my cams
xlbs on my waist
xlbs on my SS BP
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Weights and diving dry
How do you setup your weights when you dive dry?
Example:
Whites Fusion
Arctic Undergarments
xlbs in my cams
xlbs on my waist
xlbs on my SS BP
Whites Fusion
Diving Concepts TPS Extreme
- 4lbs Freedom Plate
- 4lbs in pocket at back (butt) end of crotch strap
- 8lbs on belt
- ~2lbs can light
Fusion for me = 4 Lbs on upper Cam strap, 12 Lbs weightbelt, 6 lb plate, Steel 120.
I am foot heavy with jetfins, not so bad with Atomic splits.
I have a 10 pound weight belt. I'm over-weighted a few pounds, as I prefer to drop fast to shoot.
DSS BP with the heavy weight plates (I think 8 pounds)
Steel 130 PST (none of that Worthington nonsense...)
When I dive wet, I leave the belt.
When I dive dry, I wear the belt.
That's the only difference with exposure suits with me.
-Ken
You've got some new momentum - you better keep on going
Tomorrow soon will be your yesterday
You've got some new momentum - you better keep on going
You've got to move to make it all the way... - NM
Originally Posted by Ulfhedinn
Single Tank:
SS BP: -5
Can light: -2
Ditchable: 10 lbs
Whites MK2 undergarment
Steel Tank -2 or so empty
Doubles:
Whites MK2 undergarment
SS BP: -5
Can light: -2
Tail wait: -2 (optional for me but I like how it feels)
Waist: zero
Double 100's
I'm roughly neutral on empty at 10' in this configuration single or dubs
Drysuit? Above figures are same for my Whites Fusion or my DUI FLX Extreme... nothing changed on the weighting between the two drysuit for me.
Last edited by shawnb; 07-02-2012 at 10:08 PM.
Whites Fusion, Halo or Mk3 undergarments.
5 lb ss backplate
HP100 tank
6 lbs on cambands in weight pockets
20 lb weight belt
"What other sport is there where a cute woman has trouble getting rid of her underwear?" Doppler
First off thanks for the reply's!
Seems everyone wears a belt when they dive dry. I have been looking to avoid that but it seems that I might over weight my backplate with to much lead and that might cause an issue with my trim or something to that effect.
When I dive my 7mm Wet its
Steel 130
SS BP <6lbs>
Can light <2lbs>
Upper Cams <4lbs>
I ended up getting a Fusion even though I wanted to get a Santi E.lite if I could afford it. I got an insane deal on the fusion and since I didn't just win the lottery I chose to get the exceptional deal. Dont get me wrong the fusion was once my first choice and I do love it ever since I saw Shawns.
I have a collection of undergarments to play with.
1. 4th Ele Arctic
2. 4th Ele Xerotherm
3. UA tactical coldgear compression
Just need to get in the water and play around with my weights, undergarments, and drysuit to find the best fit.
Anyone tried out the TresPres Backplate pocket from Golem gear?
I have a weightbelt but I sure dont like wearing them. Then again that really limits me if I ever need to drop weight... but then should I ever drop weight... hmm
Anyone tried out the MAKO Freedive Weight Belt with the Tinman Pinch weights? I wonder of that would be more comfortable vs my XS weightbelt?
Diving double HP100/120/130 dry in freshwater, I wear:
400g insulation plus base layer 3.0
10lb SS BP
6lb in undergarment pockets (inside my drysuit)
10lb weight belt
This makes me heavy enough to weight down two empty AL80s.
With the same setup, but a 300g undergarment, I ditch all the weight except the BP.
With a 150g undergarment, I switch to an AL BP.
Diving in poison water, I add about 10lbs.
Diver Steve knows his stuff!
Oh, I have one of those Mako weight belts, and I LOVE it! I put two ten pound shaped weights on it, and it's comfortable and doesn't slip at all. The only problem I've had is keeping the weights in place. The rubber is too thick to go through standard metal triglides. Right now, I'm using a couple of DSS's camband stabilizers (the ones that go in the groove of the plate) but they slip some.
If you don't like a belt, you can use a weight harness like the DUI Weight & Trim. That's what my husband does. The weights are then ditchable (if you run into the rare situation where you need to ditch weights) but they are a pain to replace.
There are two reasons for not putting all your weight on the the rig. One is that your wing may not float your gear in that case (or you'll need a bigger wing) and the other is that, if for any reason you have to remove your gear underwater, to clear an entanglement or reset a camband, you will be massively positive and your gear will be negative. My own, third reason, is that putting all the weight on the rig makes it much harder to lift into the back of your car or otherwise transport on land. I'm lazy and old, and like to separate the mass into different pieces for transport.
"What other sport is there where a cute woman has trouble getting rid of her underwear?" Doppler
Tanks for the honorable mention
About the under garment, I've only used a Whites MK2 and it's showing its age by now. I'm also thinking to replace it with a Xerotherm for local diving and a Halo 3D for colder than SoCal diving (I'll have a heat stroke with that thing in SoCal). That said, I've only used a Tobin plate/wing and standard weight belt. Did try a weight harness but seemed too cumbersome for me (and my wife gave up on it).
Call me sometime, we'll go diving and get you refined.
Bwhahahahhah!
But we have kelp and you love it!
Ya ain't foolin' nobody.
;-)
~~~~~
Claudette
(craving shipwreck diving in that lifeless stupid water where old stuff lasts a long time.
Go Kings! Stanley Cup Champions 2012!!!!
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." --Albert Einstein
My reminder went off last week for DYFO :(
If it hadn't gotten cancelled, I could say my last dives were in a kelp forest. I do get a couple consolation dives in Lake Michigan next weekend, but it won't be the same...
My primary buddy and I are going to get together and put some plans together for next year. If you're interested, let me know.(craving shipwreck diving in that lifeless stupid water where old stuff lasts a long time.
Go Kings! Stanley Cup Champions 2012!!!!
The Blackhawks are all over 2013, so don't get your heart set on any sort of repeat!
Tom
Diver Steve knows his stuff!
High Tide Pro (compressed neoprene)
UnderArmour Base 2.0 base layer
High Tide 100 weight polypro undergarments
0 lbs in my cams
26 lbs on my waist
8 lbs weight plates on DSS SS 5 lbs. BP
Seems like the right place to put this
So, I finally pulled the trigger on diving dry. I ended up with the Fusion Bullet. I'm trying to figure out if what I'm finding works for weight is reasonable or not, or if I can expect to shed more as I get used to it.
I'm a big guy - ~295lbs, 6'. I'm diving mainly at the local quarry, so freshwater.
Undergarment is the Whites ThermalFusion (4x) under the (4x) Fusion Bullet suit. I've been trying various combinations of base layers from UnderArmour heat gear to shorts and t-shirt.
I've been diving HP80's so far (single tank) with a Deep Outdoor stainless BP/W (so ~6lbs for the plate)
When diving wet in a 5mm hyperstretch full suit, I can get way with ~2lbs of weight (and less if it's warm enough to not need a hood and gloves).
1st dive it took 28lbs of lead on my belt (DUI Weight & Trim) to get down. I felt light if I got shallower than 15ft at pretty much any point.
On the 2nd dive I went up to 32lbs and had no problems staying down.
For dives 3&4 I dropped down to 30 lbs and did "ok" but still felt a little light, but not too bad. Most of these "dives" are basically going out to a platform and simply getting used to the suit - playing with the suit valves, feeling how air moves around, doing the usual exercises like rolling out of an inversion, etc. My only goal at this point is to suck less when I actually get to do a dive that matters.
Is this reasonable, and should I just accept that I'm schlepping around 32lbs of lead for fresh water? I'm so not looking forward to when I actually get to dive it in salt water with what I'm going to have to add!
My instinct now is to just keep diving it and getting comfortable and keep doing periodic weight checks to see what reality is. Any other approach?
Thanks!
--
Travis D.
My first thought: hooray! You're going to love diving dry and warm.
Second thought: move to a bigger steel tank with superior buoyancy characteristics.
Hp100 at minimum.
Hp130 preferred.
You are a big guy, displacing a big piece of water. Using a big wonderful cylinder like an hp130 is the most useful way of increasing your overall density.
When I went dry, I sold my hp80s, kept the hp100 for short shallow dives, and acquired 4 single hp130s.
The tank of kings.
~~~~~
Claudette
one warm line through a land so wild and savage
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." --Albert Einstein
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