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    Well, another great week spent viewing wet rocks.

    Arrival couldn't have been easier -- we used Don's EasyWays car rental place and were VERY satisfied with them. We passed all the hurdles -- immigrations, customs, car pickup, grocery store -- with no issues, until we got to the condo and the key wasn't there. We called Debbie (the agent) who was, in fact, at DEMA; but ten minutes later we had a key, and a half hour later, a second one. A pretty minor bump!

    More significant was that, despite the fact that I gave up my beloved usual condo in order to gain internet access, we had none. As it turned out, it was a Telmex problem that wasn't expected to get fixed (and wasn't) during our stay, so even the Pub had no wifi, as a consequence of which, we never set foot there. Thank goodness that Dive Aventuras had access, or Peter would have spontaneously combusted before the end of the trip.

    We were delighted to discover that a big Chedraui is going in just across the highway from PA, but it wasn't open yet. And the small grocery store in PA was undergoing renovations (should be open soon, if not already) so we had no way to pick up the bread everybody forgot to buy for breakfast and sandwiches, once we ran out. But water was available at the deli place behind what used to be Richard's.

    The new ZG fill station is lovely, and works quite well, once you figure out the rhythm of it. It was confusing at first, that it is open certain hours for swapping out tanks and other hours for fills of the tanks you HAVE, and the office is open the hours it used to be, which are not the hours the fill station is. But once you sort it out, it works. And they have HAND TRUCKS! No more dragging doubles in and out of the shop. My kind of lazy American housewife cave diving.

    We started the trip with a lovely cruise around the Cuzan Nah loop, which was marked by my first brain fart of the week. We actually completed the circuit on thirds, and here I was, looking at our jump spool and thinking, "Well, Peter can just cruise up there and pull the spool, while we remain on the line," which appeared to be his idea, too . . . right up until I went to pull out my "exit" cookie, and remembered all the contrary arrows we had marked. I then had to signal him to stop, and indicated my cookie, which didn't convey anything to him except that I hadn't taken it off yet, so he continued what he was doing, which resulted in me pulling out the wetnotes. Ben was sitting there the whole time, bemused by the marital discussion, but said that, had it been anyone else, when the wetnotes came out, he would have thumbed the dive. But he knew we were prone to this kind of nonsense, so he put up with us.

    The following day, the plan was to take Kevin's advice and go dive "upstream Dos Ojos". It sounded like a good idea, since I hadn't been IN Dos Ojos since the photo shoot with Danny following Cave 1. The problem was that we failed to ascertain which lines were "upstream", and when we asked people, we got a wide variety of incorrect responses. This resulted in Ben getting to have one of the quintessential Mexican cave experiences, which is the great line search. We found lines, quite a few of them, but none of them seemed to have anything to do with any going cave, and by the time we were working our way around to the end of the cenote that proved fertile, my ears had had it with going up and down in very shallow water, so I had to wave "bye-bye" to Ben and Peter, and they went and cave dove and I went up to the parking lot to watch cavern tour people head to the water, octopus regulators swaying gently as they walked.

    The two spent some time trying to analyze the intersecting lines off the Barbie line, and seemed to enjoy what was, of course, a relatively short dive, since so much gas had been burned doing the cavern lines in perfect trim.

    Saturday was our day of guided diving, which turned out to be with Danny. This was the first time I had been in the water with him since class, and I was wryly amused at how nervous I felt. We went to Dos Pisos, which I thought was beautiful. The dive begins with a fairly long, restricted passage, over coarse calcite "sand". It was the first time I had carried a stage through anything remotely that small, and it was definitely a learning experience. I found that, if I wrapped my arm around the stage to lift it, the body would come up but the nose would go down, and I managed to "tent stake" myself into the bottom more than once.

    We did the jump into the room with the tree roots and fish, which was breathtaking. Then we did a very long upstream swim (we had stages) during which I proved to myself that I really SHOULD have practiced handling a stage before I left, and watched a team of sidemount divers choose probably the worst place in the entire passage to drop THEIR stages, in a field of thick mung. Memories of Cave 2 came pouring back . . . We didn't make it to the Dos Pisos cenote, and in fact had a bit of team separation at turn, which came in a narrow, switchback-filled section of cave, and resulted in a prolonged discussion at the end of the dive. Danny kept trying to stop it by saying there really was no point in trying to figure out who was responsible for what; the important thing was to put some kind of procedure in place to keep it from happening again. But since none of us was precisely sure WHAT happened, let alone HOW it happened, it was a bit difficult to figure out how to prevent it in the future, except to say that five people in a cave at once is too many people.

    Sunday, we went to Jailhouse. Having had our way smoothed by Danny, there were no issues with picking up the key. The weather was perfect (it was amazingly cool throughout the entire trip) and there were NO bugs. I mean, none. Jailhouse, where I came out of my first dive with my eyes swollen shut, had no mosquitoes whatsoever. It made gearing up and getting in the water easy, and allowed us to lounge about a bit in the cenote before making the climb out of the water.

    We did the Swiss Siphon, and I was pleased as punch that I remembered the entire route, and found the unmarked jump with no difficulties whatsoever. However, one of the lessons of the trip was that, if you put me in front and make me run line, my gas consumption is no longer as good as Ben's. Adding that to the fact that I consistently had 100 psi less than anybody else in my tanks, and poor Ben was subject to the disappointment of having me turn the dive and watch the "hoover" team go sailing past us.

    That night, we had Lamont and Jen Bush and Steve Bogaerts over for dinner, and Peter managed to materialize an incredible spaghetti sauce out of virtually no ingredients. It was fun to sit and talk to Steve, and he made several comments that gave me food for thought over the next few days.
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    Monday was a bit of a mess. We had plans, and that's always dangerous in Mexico. The plan was to go to White River, where we could mix Cave 1 and Cave 2 dives, so Jen could dive with us, but everyone had something they would be pleased to do. But we got way, way back, past Phenomenon, and found that the road was blocked with big piles of dark brown dirt and rocks. The fellows resting nearby insisted that it wasn't that far to the cenote, so we walked it, and concluded that, even pushing wheelbarrows, it was further than we wanted to transport heavy gear, so we decided to go elsewhere. (A day or so later, Jen and David paid the same guys to carry their doubles, and used the wheelbarrows to get the small stuff in, and they dove there. We didn't have the determination.)

    But when we got back to the cars, we discovered not one, but TWO flat tires. One still had enough air in it to drive, but clearly needed repair as soon as possible, but the other was on Jen's car, which had had a flat the day before, so she was already on her spare. After removing all the spare tires (which could be removed -- the one from our car could not) and trying them, and discovering nothing fit, we put Jen's dead tire in our car and headed for the "vulcanizador". It turned out to be a matter of twenty minutes and VERY few pesos to get the tires fixed, but now it was necessary for someone to take Jen back to her disabled vehicle (about a forty minute drive) and get the tire back on, and by now, it was about one o'clock. So the rest of us selfish people redistributed equipment and piled into new cars and headed for Chan Hol, while Peter (who had been thinking about taking the day off, anyway) drove Jen back to White River.

    Chan Hol was a little bit difficult to find, as they are widening the highway and have cut down all the trees. As a result, the landowner has built a very high, stone wall around the property, and it looks quite different. But the small sign saying "Loma Linda de los Mucuyes" is still there. He has also built a palapa in front of the house, and offered us access to the bathrooms in the back, which made things a bit nicer. He brought out a HUGE copy of the detailed map of the system for us to peruse before diving, where I made my second mistake. I studied the map, showed the others where we were going, and did NOT then review my wetnotes for details of the LINE itself. This ended up with a bit of embarassment, as I made the wrong turn at the second T, and had the experience of swimming for about 15 minutes and then being faced with our own cookies. Since I have done this before (but on purpose, and in the other direction) I was rather annoyed with myself. But we went on, made the correct turn the second time, and swam the main line. I made what I thought was a very nice choice of a place to drop stages, and didn't get any of the steps confused, but it still takes me about three times as long as anybody else to get the job done. More practice!

    We went to where the bones had been. I had heard that the museum had removed them, but the landowner had said they were unable to do so, because they were too deteriorated and fragile. He was wrong -- they are, indeed, gone. We came back to the line and continued another ten minutes or so, and again, I turned on gas. I really enjoyed this dive -- I love the light walls of Chan Hol, and the fact that the passage changes from intimate to large spaces, limestone chunks to heavy decorations, straight hallways to serpentine sections. Fire pits and pots add to the interest as well.

    One of the big lessons of this dive was afterwards, when I told Ben that when I made the wrong turn, I knew something wasn't right, because the cave LOOKED wrong to me. And he asked, "Then why did you keep going?" I realized that I wasn't trusting my memory, which was actually proving rather good, and that I needed to have more faith in myself. This proved a very good lesson, and was put into use the very next day.

    This afternoon, Kirk and I went and did something I wish I did more often, which was to snorkel in the bay at Puerto Aventuras. We had fun when we did this once before, but this time, we headed over toward the breakwater, and it was like diving in a veritable aquarium. We found a small moray, a large French Angelfish, and quite a few of the juvenile fish that are deep indigo blue, with tons of almost fluorescent bright blue spots on them. We watched a cornetfish using the sunlight on the surface as camouflage for hunting schools of very, very tiny prey. It was a delightful hour, marred only by our failure to bring backup lights with us to look into holes. We got out of the ocean and jumped into the gorgeous swimming pool for a couple of laps, and then went back to the condo to wash the salt AND chlorine off us.

    The following day, penultimate for us but final for Ben, was to be the piece de resistance of the trip: The Diaz line to the Blue Abyss. That dive gave me goosebumps, the last time we were down there, and I had been looking forward all week to getting to show it to Ben and Kirk. I had sorted out the things that caused us difficulties the first time; I had a pretty shrewd idea of how to get to the cavern line, and where the Diaz jump line lay (and both were right). We had a bit of a false start, as we got on the cavern line in a different place from where I had done it before, and started down the X-line tunnel. But everything just looked wrong -- the jump was too far, and going in the wrong direction, into the wrong sized passage, so after just a minute or so, I signaled everyone and turned us back.

    I was right! We quickly found the right jump, which did just what I remembered, and we headed down the IHOP line and immediately and efficiently found the jump to the Diaz line (no swimming completely around the big formation there, searching for line, this time!) The arrows on the Diaz line have gone back to being blue, too. We swam that passage, which was as beautiful as I remembered it, and I recognized many places quite vividly, as a result of Nick's spectacular photographs from that dive in April. Unfortunately, one of those photographs was NOT of the jump to the Blue Abyss line, which is where my memory failed me. I had a vivid mental picture of coming up into very shallow water and a bunch of stubby, heavily stained stalagmites, and turning right to a short jump which went over a "shoulder" and sailed off into infinite space. NOTHING I saw matched my memory, or Peter's (which is notoriously bad for pattern recognition, in or out of caves) and we had lost Lamont to illness, so in the end, we swam past it and saw more of the Diaz line, but never got the "wow" experience of the dive.

    The lesson from this one was that one should not cave dive with a destination. Although I love the Diaz passage, and think it's beautiful, a significant amount of the joy was gone this time, because coming in I was focused on finding something specific, and coming out, I was disappointed that I hadn't done it. I think cave diving should be the ultimate "in the moment" activity; the cave you came to see IS the cave you are seeing, right now.

    A little deflated, we returned to the cars, to find it was MUCH later in the day than we had thought. Our plan had been to meet up with Fred at 2 at Carwash, so he could talk us through pulling out the sensor I had sponsored, but it was already 2 o'clock. We beat feet for Carwash, eschewing lunch in favor of only being an hour late, and arrived there to find Fred's truck, with four sets of doubles sitting behind it, and a note saying he'd be up at 3:30 with the sensor, and would help us download it and put it back.

    These sensors are Sensus Pros, which are being placed in various spots in different systems, to gather data on water temperature and depth, for the use of anyone studying the hydrology of the Yucatan. They hold about six months of data, at the set sampling rate, so every six months or so, they have to be taken out and downloaded, and those of us who have sponsored one (a very inexpensive thing -- I think it was $80) get to retrieve our own and see the data added to the growing collection. Mine is in the Chamber of the Ancients, which is somewhere I had never been, so doing a short dive to put it back, and do a quick tour of the room, was an attractive proposition.

    Fred, being far more organized than we are, was in fact on the surface at PRECISELY 3:30, and he brought the sensor to the truck, where we downloaded it (a very easy process) and looked at some rather interesting anomalies in the data. They have a weather station, as well, and plan to work on correlating weather events with changes in depth and temperature (temperature really reflects the height of the halocline and degree of mixing, rather than ambient temp) to see what influences the balance between the salt and fresh water flows. I feel good about being an admittedly very small part of something constructive, as well as just diving for pure fun down there.

    Peter and Ben opted out of the dive, so they took off, and Kirk and I did it. It was fun. I had an entirely erroneous mental picture of the chamber itself, which I had envisioned as a large room, which it really is not. It may be a large ROOF, but with a huge breakdown pile in the middle of it, which turns the dive into a little circuit. After we reinstalled the sensor (amusing, because it's almost neutral in the water, and did not want to stay where it was put) we did the little tour, and then pulled out Fred's reel and went home. I was awfully glad he had left it for us -- I don't think ANY oral description of the route would have gotten us down in there!

    Back at the condo, and another dinner party. This time, Peter made chicken mole, and we were joined by Lamont, Jen, and even Kathy, home from her Cave 1 class early but no less stressed thereby. Natalie Gibb, Dennis's more or less partner and a definite contender for the "nano-tech" diver title, also came, and was gracious enough to draw me a map of Xunan Ha, for next trip.

    The following morning was bittersweet, because, although we had one more day to dive, Ben had to go home. So a round of hugs was followed by a round of packing, and everyone set off for his respective destination. Ben's was the Cancun airport, and ours was back to Jailhouse, with a stop at ZG for fills. There, we encountered a fellow named Jacob, whose car had broken down, and who was therefore trolling for dive buddies. Being an inclusive bunch, we immediately invited him to join us, and again shuffled gear in cars, and set off to the south. The key was obtained without difficulties, which is more than I can say for the actual drive to the site. A car with three of us in it managed to drive right past the "Cenote Cristal" sign and get past Dos Pisos before we realized it. Why the folks in the car behind us, who KNEW we were lost, didn't blink lights or honk or something, I don't know, but at any rate, we got turned around and found our way back, hoping this was not an omen for our navigation in the cave.

    Our plan was a team of three (me, Kirk and Peter) to do a photo shoot in the main saltwater passage, and a team of two to follow (Lamont and Jacob). We didn't do the bypass line this time, and basically proved that one saves no time and no gas by doing so (although the passage is fun). Peter got some video through the halocline, which he wanted, and then spent quite a bit of time shooting the two of us against the dramatic walls and formations in the "hallway". When he turned the dive (camera needing its own tank again), we looked behind us and saw, off in the distance, the lights of the other team. We waited, to get some pictures of their lights coming in, and it turned out we were quite lucky, because where we had stopped was precisely where the mastodon bones were, and Jacob pointed them out to us.

    Peter's lovely photographs from the dive can be found HERE.

    We made our way out to the fresh water passage, and stopped a few times on the way out to do some more photographs, and ended up in the cenote with HUGE grins on our faces. It was a lovely, lovely dive on which to finish the trip. And once Lamont and Jacob were up, we all repaired to road kill chicken for lunch (my first time there), where Jacob kept me in complete hysterics with a sharp, quick and clever wit (like describing DIR divers as the "chess club" of the diving world for social skills, which is why so many people report uncomfortable interactions with us). I honestly wish I could remember all the good lines he came up with, and I don't even have margaritas to blame for the loss!

    That evening, through a variety of happy coincidences, we ended up with the party at our place -- Jacob, Gideon, Jen, and Lamont joined the three of us to clean up leftovers, including tequila and a whole new supply of beer. It was an animated and delightful evening, and a perfect way to keep our minds off the sadness of the morrow's departure.

    Another fantastic week in the caves, with many lessons learned, from the cave and from my fellows. Special thanks to Ben, who has the priceless knack of asking a quiet, non-threatening question that makes you sit back on your haunches and completely rethink what you just did, or how you did it. I never felt defensive with Ben's critiques, and he had lot to pass on to me.

    My one serious regret of the trip is that, once again, I did not manage to connect with my friend Jason. I have GOT to figure out a better way to manage communications in MX, and realize that internet access, although a nice concept, is simply not going to be a reality. Sorry, Jason; I missed you!
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    Thanks for the report Lynne - it sounds like a great time! I'm sure it went by much too quickly.

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    sounds awsome, though we missed you at the dema party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marci View Post
    sounds awsome, though we missed you at the dema party.
    What is this "DEMA party" you speak of... where was I??
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    Nice Lynne, I am definitely interested in that map of Xunaan Ha. It's an awesome cave but we only did mostly mainline upstream there (with a slight bypass jump)

    There are a LOT of lines, some of which are placed rather interestingly and I think a decent number of them may be sidemount....

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    Great report Lynne! Sorry to have missed you guys. We did have a great Thanksgiving meal at Cafe 'Ole to continue the tradition you and Peter indoctrinated us to last year. Prior to dinner we had a "welcome to Mexico" margarita at the Pub.

    First shakeout /gear checkout dive of the trip tomorrow.

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    what a great dive report. may i ask a stupid question, when you said that when you took your wetnotes out, Ben should have thumbed the dive< is that standard protocol? I mean just writing? or is it that if you seem that confused that you would have to use that form of communication that the dive is done? just gittin myself ready for my own start next year ( i hope)

    cant wait to see the video

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    I dont know what i am going to do next, but it will be interesting.

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    Yes, Wendy; Ben's basic take is that, if the dive has gotten so off track from the original, clearly understood plan, that wetnotes have to be used to sort things out, it's time to go home. In this case, we weren't really confused; we knew where we were and where we were going, we just were no longer clear on precisely HOW we were going to accomplish it.

    I agree with Ben, BTW. In general, if you have a miscommunication between two divers on a cave team that can't be sorted out without wet notes, you should really be thinking about going home. (However, we had another circumstance of the same sort, where three of four divers understood what we were looking at, and the fourth was confused; wetnotes were used, the issue was clarified, and the dive proceeded. And the person who took the wetnotes out was Ben ).
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    Great read. Reading that I feel like I was just there. I did have a wonderful time, am thankful for the invite, and you showing me some of your favorite places. That Ben guy sounds like a real complainer, though. I wouldn't invite him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCF View Post
    Yes, Wendy; Ben's basic take is that, if the dive has gotten so off track from the original, clearly understood plan, that wetnotes have to be used to sort things out, it's time to go home. In this case, we weren't really confused; we knew where we were and where we were going, we just were no longer clear on precisely HOW we were going to accomplish it.

    I agree with Ben, BTW. In general, if you have a miscommunication between two divers on a cave team that can't be sorted out without wet notes, you should really be thinking about going home. (However, we had another circumstance of the same sort, where three of four divers understood what we were looking at, and the fourth was confused; wetnotes were used, the issue was clarified, and the dive proceeded. And the person who took the wetnotes out was Ben ).

    gotcha....different than ow. i am but a grasshopper. in jet fins that is.

    ww
    I dont know what i am going to do next, but it will be interesting.

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    Lynne,

    As always, a fantastic report. Really wished that we could have joined in all the fun! Thanks for sharing.
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    HI Lynne,
    great report
    Glad you had a good time
    Next time, if you don't mind diving with a stroke like me, in sidemount, it will be a pleasure to dive with you.
    IN the same time, looking forward to the pics and hope to see you next time you come over.

    Cheers,

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    Thank you, Lynne. After reading your reports it sometimes feels almost like a memory rather than someone else's description of something I've never seen.

    Thanks for so skillfully sharing the fun and sensations with all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCF View Post
    quite a few of the juvenile fish that are deep indigo blue, with tons of almost fluorescent bright blue spots on them.
    ...probably juvenile Yellowtail Damselfish aka "Jewelfish". Very pretty.
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